Re: value of shift???

From: Dana Beavis (Beavis@sgs1.hirg.bnl.goV)
Date: Thu Dec 27 2001 - 11:14:44 EST

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    Hiro,
    
    It sounds like you are working on your thesis background.  EXCELLENT.
    
    Anyway you must have missed Fermi's Golden Rule: " Don't beat on those who
    put Gold in your pocket."
    
    And,  the people I knew who worked on ballon flights in the 80's did take
    shifts etc.
    
    Must have something to do with electronics or the supply of gold.
    
    dana
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Hironori Ito" <hito@students.phsx.ukans.edu>
    To: <brahms-l@bnl.gov>
    Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 1:10 AM
    Subject: Re: value of shift???
    
    
    > Hello.  I need to take a one centence from the previous
    > mail.  That is "No shift=No data".  After reading the old papers and
    > talking to Challis, the cosmic rays emulation experiment by
    > balloon during 50s and 60s did not require any shifts at all.  They
    > just built the detectors and sent them to somewhere in Colorado, where
    > people mounted the detectors in the balloon and let it go.  (I guess they
    > estimated (or hoped) the landing location.)  After landing (somewhere in
    > Texas) they (not physicists) collected the detectors and sent them back to
    > the physicists for analysis.  Therefore, it was "Data w/o Shift".
    >
    > Ok, since I can hear the complaints from the senior people who do
    > a lot of administrative work, I will add one more factor by age.  Assuming
    > the olddest and youngest ages in our group are 75 and 25, here is the
    > formula, (age-25)*(beam shift weeks/2)/25.  Therefore,  if you are age 75
    > and 20 weeks of Au runs, you get (75-25)*(20/2)/25=20 shifs, which is
    > reasonable.  (Ok, I am just having a fun!!!)
    >
    > Hiro
    >
    > Note:  While researching the old paper for high energy nuclear
    > collisions, I found the papers by Enrico Fermi in 1950 and 1951.  There,
    > he layed out many of the basic ideas for the current RHIC physics without
    > quark and gluon Mambo-Jumbo. (He seems to be the first one ahead of
    > Landau.)   (Of cause, he got the wrong conclusion, but that is not really
    > important.)  After 50+ years, we are still doing what he proposed.  I
    > would say he was very sharp. Wow!!!
    >
    >
    



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