Re: MULT PAPER. vers. 33. That's it.

From: J.H. Lee (jhlee@sgs1.hirg.bnl.goV)
Date: Tue Nov 20 2001 - 15:19:36 EST

  • Next message: Jens Jørgen Gaardhøje: "Re: MULT PAPER. vers. 33. That's it."

    Dear Jens Jørgen and collaborators,
    
    I have a few comments on the draft. 
    Title:  In my personal opinion, the title is somewhat too provocative.
    When readers see a title "Role of partonic collisions in the ....", 
    which sounds almost like a theoretical paper,  they naturally expect 
    to get an answer to the question of  "what is a role of partonic collision?"  
    But I think our results don't/can't give an answer to the question as we 
    said in the text.  At the summary/conclusion it reads  " we find good 
    consistency with the gluon saturation model, .... but the data can be 
    equally well  reproduced by other models not requiring saturation 
    effect..."  In that case, do we still want to put the "big" question in the 
    title?
    
    There are a few wrong statements:
    - page 3: "The BRAHMS experiment consists of ... for measuring
    exclusive charged particle..."
    We measure inclusive and semi-inclusive spectra, but certainly can't
    measure exclusive particle spectra.
    - page 4: "Particle densities are deduced from the observed energy 
    loss in the SiMA and TMA elements..." 
    We only use SiMA for the particle density measurements. TMA is only
    used for the centrality determination.
    - page6: "...but on the number of binary parton collisions..."
    Ncoll is expected to scale with hard collisions but  it is number of  
    binary nucleon-nucleon collisions.
    
    JH
      
    
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Jens Jørgen Gaardhøje" <gardhoje@nbi.dk>
    To: <brahms-l@bnl.gov>
    Cc: <gardhoje@nbi.dk>
    Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:40 AM
    Subject: MULT PAPER. vers. 33. That's it.
    
    
    > Dear  friends,
    > 
    > Attached please find version 3.3 of the paper. Steve and I consider this the
    > final version, i.e. the one that goes for discussion to the collaboration.
    > We hope for many constructive comments.
    > 
    > Steve has updated all tables and numbers. Michael has contributed with
    > references and a revtex 4 version. Hiro has made the figures
    > (inspect the kansas account :  pii3.brahms.bnl.gov/~kansas/dndeta01/ )
    > 
    > I'm sure that Steve (when he wakes up EST) will update the kansas account
    > with this document and with the latest
    > figures (1-5 and alternative 5), so that it will available to all later this
    > evening.
    > 
    > There has been a fair discussion with many people already -also outside the
    > paper committee- on the figures and the associated text.
    > It appears that there is a majority that favor the Npart plot (fig.5 ) over
    > the Nch plot (alternative fig. 5) and a majority in favor of keeping the
    > fragmentation plot (fig.2.). This is also Steve's and my point of view.
    > So this is the format of the present paper.
    > 
    > There has been discussion on the title over the last 24 hrs.: I have
    > tentatively invented a new title - which I actually think is not just
    > populistic:
    > 'Role of parton collisions in the production of charged particles in
    > 100AGeV+100AGeV Au+AU collisions at RHIC.'
    > 
    > This is in fact what we explore via the measurements and the comparisons to
    > the relevant models.
    > The old and very standard title is commented out in the paper.
    > 
    > There are obviously details that will need to be adjusted in the text, also
    > based on input from the entire
    > collaboration, but the data and thus the basic results are not expected to
    > change. The rest is thus mainly details of presentation and perhaps some
    > fine tuning of the text length.
    > 
    > We are prepared to announce tomorrow, wednesday, the paper to BNL and the
    > other experiments.
    > This just entails submitting the title and the abstract (SO COMMENT
    > IMMEDIATELY ON THIS; PLEASE).
    > 
    > The ambition is to receive input from all interested parties very rapidly
    > (by the end of the week) so that (depending on the degree of criticism by
    > sceptics) we may be ready to post the entire draft to the other RHIC
    > spokespeople by early next week and submit to PRL shortly afterwards.
    > 
    > cheers
    > JJ
    > 
    > 
    



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