Re: Update on analysis at very high rapidities

From: Jens Jørgen Gaardhøje (gardhoje@nbi.dk)
Date: Fri Jul 12 2002 - 12:55:24 EDT

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    Hi Djamel
    
    Bravo!
    
    This looks pretty good at a fisrt glance.. I assume that the yields are
    corrected using the lates Pawel track by track eff. and that I should
    divide the listed yields by the listed fraction?
    
    In that case your ratios make sense with what we have just submitted!
    
    I also note that the net baryon number at 3.205 is around 50, suggesting
    that the rapidity loss is about 3 units at this RHIC energy, a very
    significant result! It thus peaks at a higher rap. than for the Mishustin
    decelleration model.
    
    Also if the K/pi ratios stay: this will be a  very beautiful demonstration
    that you recover the AGS-SPS ratios for positive at y=3 , while the K-/pi-
    stays constant.
    Also a beatiful demonstration of our whole understanding of the reaction
    mechanism.
    
    Well, I'm off.
    I  look forward to see the progress on Monday from CERN.
    Remind me to buy you a triple PASTIS on the place de l'edit de Nantes!
    
    Cheers
    JJ
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Djamel Ouerdane" <ouerdane@nbi.dk>
    To: <brahms-l@bnl.gov>
    Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 6:26 PM
    Subject: Update on analysis at very high rapidities
    
    
    > Dear collaboration,
    >
    > I've been quite silent on the analysis going on at high rapidities but
    > now comes the time to share the preliminary results, discuss the good and
    > the not-that-bad-that-could-be-improved, etc.
    >
    > What follows is of course preliminary. Take a look at these plots :
    > http://www.nbi.dk/~ouerdane/spectra.
    > They mainly deal with rapidities around 3 where I put much of my effort.
    >
    > Why this rapidity ?
    >
    > 1- because the further from mid-rap., the better
    > The idea is to check if the physics there is a bit?, somewhat?, a lot?,
    > really?, extremely? different from mid-rap.
    >
    > 2- because spectrometer acceptances are easier to deal with (smaller y
    > range for p and K than around y = 2)
    > 3- the excellent PID from the RICH
    > 4- the different tracking efficiencies were all calculated for these runs.
    > There's no need to combine several PID detectors (in particular C1, which
    > efficiency is not well-know right now, the RICH is being treated by
    > Pawel as I'm writing now).
    >
    > The good :
    > ----------
    > Qualitatively, the data looks good. I selected 4 and 3 degree runs at
    > different field settings to cover as much acceptance as possible.
    >
    > When corrected for the geometrical acceptance AND tracking efficiencies,
    > there is consistency between the different settings, although some
    > mismatch remains on yields from setting to setting (taking into account
    > the RICH efficiency should help).
    >
    > The pt spectra can be fitted quite nicely with an exponential fit. This
    fit
    > returns effective temperature estimations that are consistent with the
    > ratio story, i.e. :
    >
    >  *  pion slope comparable with mid-rapidity (not affected by flow
    >     throughout the whole rapidity range)
    >
    >  *  kaon and proton slopes lower than at mid-rap, consistent with a lower
    >     transverse flow which is not very suprising
    >
    >  *  increase of K+/pi+ and constance of K-/pi- when compared with mid-rap.
    >     (K-/pi-) / (K+/pi+) is consistent with our K-/K+ ratio (hurrah:)
    >
    >  *  lower particle yields (dn/dy) of course, and increase of the net
    >     protons (from y = 0 to y = 3)
    >
    >
    > The not-so-good-that-would-like-to-be-good :
    > ------------------------------------------
    >
    >  * Quantitatively :
    >
    > In general, yields (dn/dy) are roughly speaking 2 times lower than the
    > dn/deta results already published. I've been struggling to understand why
    > for a long long time. This factor of 2 was originally much bigger. It goes
    > in the right direction but it still needs to be lowered.
    >
    > More worrysome, I think, is the fact that doing fits in mt - m will give
    > yields even lower than in pt. I don't understand why but I might miss
    > something here. Maybe it affetcs only the extrapolated yields. I'll check
    > the yields under the fit range, it should be the same...
    >
    >
    > Combining different settings to have overlap between pi and K is not an
    > easy task. Depending on the y bin you work in, the slopes can change by 30
    > to 50 MeV, which change the pt dependence of e.g. K/pi,
    > though (K-/pi-) / (K+/pi+) remains ok.
    >
    > This fluctuations can be associated to :
    >   - edge effect due to small acceptances, fluctuations introduced by non
    >     smooth acceptance correction maps (my acceptance correction maps
    >     were produced with 5 million events only to speed up their production,
    it
    >     takes quite some time to run the full FS spectrometer with brag and
    >     scan the output files, only a small fraction of the tracks can make
    >     it from the vtx to the RICH)
    >
    >   - lack of high statistics in the data, the chosen fit range in pt
    >     influences the result from a bit to pretty much.
    >
    >   - efficiencies particle specie dependent (the assumption is that it's
    >     independent, except for the RICH in momentum, reason why Pawel is
    >     producing an efficiency curve as a function of the gamma factor)
    >     or simply not treated correctly by me. I tried two methods which give
    >     teh same results : one is to build an average efficiency of  your data
    >     sample in pt or mt - m and then, use this average on the before final
    >     spectrum, the other one is to weight each track by this efficiency
    >     factor right at the beginning when I fill my spectrum histograms.
    >
    >   - the underlying physics itself, (I doubt about it though) : why should
    >     the dynamics of the fragmentation region afterall behave smoothly from
    >     2.8 to 3.5 ?
    >
    >
    >   - centrality dependence : if I analyse data from 0 to 10 and 10 to 20 %
    >     central, I'll see changes in yield scales that seem ok. Exploring 0 to
    >     5 and 5 to 10% gave me no significant variation (and I must say that
    >     the small variation went the wrong way). I do not trust the centrality
    >     from 0 to 5.
    >
    > I haven't got the time to put more but it will show up soon (I'll do my
    > best for that). I need first your impression on these plots and then
    > comments, suggestions, etc for improving it. I've spent days AND nights
    > with the forward spectrometer data to get a descent story. I'm almost
    > there but I need new forces from others. I also have to put together my
    > talk (which won't take much time since we've gone through the structure
    > with the NBI guys).
    >
    > Djam
    >
    > PS: if you wonder about the striking flatness of the K/pi ratio while the
    > spectra show sligtly different slopes, it's because I've made the ratios
    > with a bigger rapidity bin and produced the plot first.
    >
    >
    >
    >
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