Re: Comments on version 3.04: QUICK JOB for Claus !!

From: Stephen J. Sanders (ssanders@ku.edu)
Date: Sun Jul 07 2002 - 11:21:40 EDT

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    Dear Jens Jorgen,
    Thanks for the clarification on the calculation!  I was missing the
    second term in the k-/k+ ratio.    Is there a good reference for
    this?  Just based on the papers that we cite, I would have taken
    the particle production to scale as
    1/exp[{E - mu_b B - mu_s S}/T],
    with B and S being the baryon and
    strangeness numbers for the resulting hadrons.
    
    Regards,
    Steve  
    
    on 7/7/02 5:36 AM, Jens Jørgen Gaardhøje at gardhoje@nbi.dk wrote:
    
    > Dear Steve,
    > Thanks for your precise and relevant comments. They are now in version 3.05,
    > which I will however not circulate until monday evening - to minimize
    > confusion among the crowd.
    > 
    > The Becattini curve has yet to find its way into figure 4. (CLAUS !?)
    > 
    > I have gone through the calc. again and find no mistake in the relationship
    > mu_s=1/4 . mu_q.
    > 
    > pbar/p = exp( -2mu_b/T) = exp(-6mu_q/T)
    > 
    > k-/k+ = exp( 2 mu_s/T) . exp( -2 mu_q/T) ; since K- has an anti-u and a s,
    > and antiparticles contribute with opposite sign chem. pot. etc.
    > 
    > This leads to the relation k-/k+=  exp(2mu_s/T) . (pbar/p)**1/3   (1)
    > 
    > We observe k-/k+ = (pbar/p)**1/4.
    > 
    > equating k-/k+ above with the RH side leds to the quoted identity.
    > 
    > Another approach would have been to fit the data to an expression like (1)
    > and let mu_s and T vary. => CLAUS CAN YOU DO THAT??
    > 
    > Please let me know if we agree on the formalism.
    > cheers
    > JJ
    > 
    > 
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    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Stephen J. Sanders" <ssanders@ku.edu>
    > To: <brahms-l@bnl.gov>
    > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 11:34 PM
    > Subject: Comments on version 3.04
    > 
    > 
    >> Dear Jens Jorgen and Claus,
    >> Overall the paper seems to tell an interesting story.  Nice job.
    >> Some comments:
    >> 
    >> PRL required full postal addresses.  For the US institutions, this means
    > you
    >> will need to
    >> supply the states and postal zip codes.
    >> 
    >> Abstract:
    >> "ratios at midrapidity"   (typo in draft)
    >> "from mu_b=120 MeV at forward rapidity to mu_b ~25MeV at mid-rapidity"
    >> (otherwise the reader will
    >> assume a parallel structure to the previous sentence where one
    >> goes FROM midrapidity  TO
    >> forward rapidity)
    >> 
    >> Paragraph 1.
    >> "...considerable transparency is expected for Au+Au collisions, even
    > for
    >> central events."
    >> (current sentence is poorly formed and confusing)
    >> "...near midrapidity and pbar/p and K-/K+ particle number ratios with
    >> values near unity."
    >> (current sentence poorly formed...)
    >> "...described above, reminiscent..."  (remove "a" before reminiscent)
    >> 
    >> Paragraph 3.
    >> "...ratios are approaching unity, with values of 0.75+-0.04(pbar/p),
    >> 0.95+-0.05(K-/K+), and
    >> 1.01+-0.04(pi-/pi+), respectively."
    >> (What does "over 0.95+-0.05" mean?!!!!  Is this a claim that we don't
    >> believe the quoted uncertainty?
    >> 
    >> Paragraph 5.
    >> "p=5.5 and 8GeV/c, respectively."  (add comma)
    >> 
    >> Paragraph 6.
    >> "The primary event trigger was based on two Zero Degree Calorimeters
    >> (ZDCs) located +/-18m
    >> from the nominal IP [12].  The reaction centrality was determined
    > using
    >> a plastic
    >> scintillator tile array surrounding the intersection region[7,8,12].
    >> Beam-Beam Counters (BBCs),
    >> consisting of two arrays of Cherenkov radiators positions +-2.15 m
    > from
    >> the IP, measured charged
    >> hadrons in the pseudorapidity range 3.0<|eta|<3.8.  For the 25% most
    >> central collisions, the BBCs
    >> allow collision vertex determination with a resolution of sig_z~0.65
    > cm
    >> and supply the start time
    >> for the time-of-flight measurement with sig_t<~30 ps."
    >> (Otherwise ZDC is used in Paragraphs 8, but never defined.)
    >> 
    >> Paragraph 8.
    >> "...expected \beta^{-1} vs. momentum behavior for..."  (add behavior)
    >> "...BBC-ZDC..."   (We used BBC in the multiplicity papers and it
    > would
    >> be nice to be consistent...)
    >> 
    >> Paragraph 9.
    >> "In the MRS the background contribution to the proton yields,
    > arising
    >> mainly..."  (Otherwise,
    >> I'm not sure what is meant by "from protons"...)
    >> 
    >> Paragraph 11.
    >> "{\it etc.}"   (add period to indicate abbreviation of "et cetera")
    >> 
    >> Paragraph 12.
    >> "Systematic uncertainties are estimated as 2% in the case of pions
    > and
    >> kaons and as 4% in the case
    >> of protons."  (Both instances of "to" should be changed to "as".)
    >> 
    >> "...invariant plateau around midrapidity as proposed by Bjorken."
    > (add
    >> "as")
    >> 
    >> Paragraph 14.
    >> (Here I am suggesting a rewording that would have made this
    > discussion
    >> clearer to me after reading
    >> the EARLIER Braun-Munzinger papers, which we don't cite.  However, I
    >> am also not
    >> getting your expression of mu_s=1/4 mu_q, so I may be missing
    >> something else....(I find
    >> mu_s = mu_b/4 rather than mu_q/4))
    >> 
    >> " ...expressed by a power low K-/K+=(pbar/p)^{1/4}.  The exponent
    > gives
    >> the scaling factor between
    >> the strange and baryon chemical potentials. For a vanishing
    >> strange-quark chemical
    >> potential \mu_{qs}, this
    >> exponent is expected to have a value of 1/3 (where mu_{qs}=\mu_B/3 -
    >> \mu_S). The present
    >> result sugests \mu_S = \mu_B / 4."
    >> 
    >> Figure Caption 4.
    >> Becattini results stated in caption is not shown (on my figure...)
    >> 
    >> Regards,
    >> Steve
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    > 
    



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