Re: 22 Gev dndeta

From: Dieter Rohrich (dieter@fi.uib.no)
Date: Mon Dec 03 2001 - 12:59:11 EST

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    Hei Michael and Bjorn,
    
    Gunter Roland integrated our (NA49) momentum spectra
    Nucl.Phys.A661:45-54,1999 and showed the dn/deta/nn-pairs in the PHOBOS
    publication Phys.Rev.Lett.85:3100-3104,2000:
    
    dn/deta = 1.9 * 362/2  = 344   (5% cent. Pb+Pb, 158 AGeV)
    
    With best wishes,
    Dieter
    
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    On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Michael Murray wrote:
    
    >    Dear Bjorn,
    >             maybe I am misinterpreting the 
    > KLM paper. I looked at the EMU02 paper and they
    > get dN/deta=400 for the top 4% of centrality.
    >           Yours Michael
    > 
    > 
    > Quoting Michael Murray <murray@cyclotronmail.tamu.edu>:
    > 
    > >    Dear Bjorn,
    > >             the KLM collaboration has studied PbPb collisions 
    > > at the SPS with Emulsion. They are ref [17] of our 200GeV paper.
    > > In figure 2 of PRC 62 014903 they plot the multiplicity per
    > > wounded nucleon W. They have dN/deta/W = .93 at eta=0 and
    > > in Table 2 list W=2*(170+-7). This gives dN/deta=316+-20 at 
    > > at eta=0 for 10% central PbPb collisions. They say that they
    > > are consistent with another emulsion experiment EMU02 
    > > PLB 407 92 (1997).
    > >               Yours Michael
    > > 
    > > Quoting Bjorn H Samset <bjornhs@rcf2.rhic.bnl.gov>:
    > > 
    > > > On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Hironori Ito wrote:
    > > > 
    > > > >       Hello.  For appetizer of some people, dndeta for 0-5 %
    > > central
    > > > > 22 Gev run is about 200 at eta=0 by silicon and tile.  A
    > > normalization
    > > > is
    > > > > done using Hijing to estimate BB counter (trigger 1) efficiency. 
    > > (We
    > > > > know it is way model dependent.)  The number (200) seems to be too
    > > > > low.  Unless someone comes up with better (or right) normalization,
    > > > this is
    > > > > it for 22 Gev run.
    > > > 
    > > > ...and TPM1 can (almost)confirm this. Using the same simple
    > > > normalization
    > > > I get
    > > > 
    > > > dNdEta ~ 210
    > > > 
    > > > at eta=0. However: Comparing the BB multiplicity distribution from
    > > > geant
    > > > with data indicates that assuming a very high efficiency at 0-5% may
    > > > not
    > > > be correct (the nose of the "min"bias is very round), so a better
    > > > normalization may well increase this number. (I.e. we need to
    > > properly
    > > > digitize the BB response - I haven't managed to do this yet.) Also
    > > the
    > > > vertex distribution I have used in my simulation isn't quite as flat
    > > as
    > > > the data sample.
    > > > 
    > > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Michael Murray wrote:
    > > > 
    > > > >   Another approach is to calculate the average
    > > > > dN/dEta for the 100 highest multplicity events.
    > > > > Then you don't have to worry about any efficences.
    > > > 
    > > > This (luckily) is easy - for my top 100 events (using BB mult) I get
    > > > 
    > > > dNdEta ~ 260
    > > > 
    > > > Somewhat higher (I might add that the 0-5% sample above was ~2700
    > > > events)
    > > > - what dNdEta do we expect for this energy?
    > > > 
    > > > I'll hack away at this some more and send more details as I go along.
    > > > 
    > > > Ping :-)
    > > > 
    > > > 
    > > > --
    > > > Bjorn H. Samset                           Phone: 22856465/92051998
    > > > PhD student, heavy ion physics            Adr:   Schouterrassen 6
    > > > Inst. of Physics, University of Oslo             0573 Oslo
    > > >                               \|/
    > > > ----------------------------> -*- <-----------------------------
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    > > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > Michael Murray, Cyclotron TAMU, 979 845 1411 x 273, Fax 1899
    > > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > Michael Murray, Cyclotron TAMU, 979 845 1411 x 273, Fax 1899
    > 
    



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