Dear all, here are some questions Flemming sent me regarding the report you have all, no doubt, already read. I hope that my answers are clear and to the point. Further questions are more than welcome. In what follows, I enclose FV's questions follewed by my answers, which I set off by > Enjoy! Fig 1. Does not show the tpm2 tracks. I know it is likely mostly (0) 1 and a few two's >The mean number of tracks (after requiring at least one in the >event!) is 1.19, while the mean number of hits (also requiring at >least one track) is 1.6. I'll check the number of hits with no >requirement on tracks, but it will of course be much larger. Fig 4. says run 2256 though this is not given in the text of good runs. >Yes, I looked at 2256, as well as the others. The only ps file I had >showing adc's was from 2256, but this doesn't change in the (very >few!) runs I have looked at. This brings up the issues of agreeing to a set of comon runs. We (FR,EJK and I) had a discussion today on )this item. I will propose to choose a) a set of zero field runs 90, 60 and 45 deg for MRS 4 and 5 deg for FS >Sounds good. b) A set of B<>0 A and B pol for 90, 45, 60 deg as well as 4,5 that we choose as a standard so far. The runs picked so far is with no special consideration, apart from the 2235, 2238 being early high statistics runs. >It would be particularly nice to use runs with downscaled ZDC (i.e. not so many trigger 4 events). Q: how much statistics do you need (More is better of course) >This is a good question...my guess is that to do reasonable >calibrations one needs ~200 counts in the TDC spectra. Because the >target is not fixed, this means that we really need ~200 *tracks* >reconstructed to the vertex (to obtain track lenght and p). I've not >done any serious estimates yet, but it doesn't look like it will be a >problem in the FFS. The MRS may be more problematic, though, since >the number of TPM2 (and thus global) tracks is lower. Coupled with >this is the fact that TOFW has twice as many slats as TOF1. >If we blindly say that we lose a factor of two for #of tracks and two >for #of slats, we'll need 4 times the number of MRS events than FFS. >Of course, when the entire FS is operational, the numbers will be >closer. So...what does this tell us? In run 2513, I sorted ~40K >events to obtain the plot shown in figure 7. Note that this has >no further vertex cut than the (minimal) requirement that trigger 6 >fired. Placing a +/-2ns cut on the (as yet uncalibrated!) >BBL(fastest)-BBR(fastest) reduces the number of counts by a factor of >5-10 (and cleans the spectrum a bit as well.). On this basis, I >would estimate that a calibration of TOF1 requires on the order of >40-50K events with the same trigger mix as run 2513, and on the order >of 200K events with for TOFW. My estimate for TOF1 is the lower >limit, and the for the TOFW is too uncertain to worry too much >about. >So the short answer is I need twice the statistics, whatever they are;-) Comment: I have written a TrackSelect.C Program/Macro that realy helps a lot and propose to put a set of files (in root format) that has i) vertex -20<v<20 and ii) at least one track in tpm2 This reduces the size a lot, of course it is biased because tracking is done , and may have non-optimal parameters; for studies it is probably ok. >For what I am looking at, bias is really OK, if not preffered. For >TOF calibrations and PID (testing in particular!) we want tracks, and >the more the merrier. Well, at least up to the point where the >tracking can no longer handle them. >Where does one find the secret treasure of flemming code? Q: Do you understand the shape of the 'closest hit plot (Fig 3) that seems already to deviate from godd gaussian distruibution at teh 10% level of the peak. Does this indicate missing tracks, or large background in TOF. Certainly for TOFW the #hits is much greater than tracks! >Note that this is for TOF1 not TOFW. I think that the misidentifying >the "best" hit which is done very simply. I just loop over all hits, >and for each hit I loop over tracks and plot the difference in x >position. Since, for some events, both of these numbers are very >large (>10!), I guess we get some junk. I'll do this again, but only >look at events where there are fewer than X tracks in T2 and see how >it looks. Also, I never remove hits from the loop, it could be that >the same hit gets used more than once. >Actually, I thought that this plot was very reassuring, since it >shows that *most* of the local tracks in T2 actually point at hit in >TOF1, and that the geometry is consistent, at least between T2 and >TOF1. > I am sending this to the list, because you have brought up > some good questions, and it is easier to send this to everyone than >add to my previous document. >The other reason for sending this to the list is to announce that you > have won the Weekly Carlsberg. >What, you no doubt ask, is the Weekly Carlsberg? >This is the prize to the person with the first pertintent and > substantive comments to the HEHI weekly report. > Sadly, this time you were the only contestant. >Thanks for your input! 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