answers to tof report questions

From: Ian Bearden (bearden@alf.nbi.dk)
Date: Wed Sep 13 2000 - 03:51:53 EDT

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    Dear all,
    here are some questions Flemming sent me regarding the report you have
    all, no doubt, already read.  I hope that my answers are clear 
    and to the point.  Further questions are more than welcome.
    In what follows, I enclose FV's questions follewed by my answers,
    which I set off by >
    Enjoy!
    
    
    Fig 1. Does not show the tpm2 tracks. I know it is likely mostly (0) 1
    and a few two's
    >The mean number of tracks (after requiring at least one in the
    >event!) is 1.19, while the mean number of hits (also requiring at
    >least one track) is 1.6.  I'll check the number of hits with no 
    >requirement on tracks, but it will of course be much larger.
    
    Fig 4. says run 2256 though this is not given in the text of good runs.
    >Yes, I looked at 2256, as well as the others.  The only ps file I had 
    >showing adc's was from 2256, but this doesn't change in the (very
    >few!) runs I have looked at.
    
    This brings up the issues of agreeing to a set of comon runs. We
    (FR,EJK and I) had a discussion today on )this item. I will propose to
    choose 
    
    a) a set of zero field runs 90, 60 and 45 deg for MRS
        4 and 5 deg for FS
    >Sounds good.
    b) A set of B<>0 A and B pol for 90, 45, 60 deg as well as 4,5 that we
        choose as a standard so far. The runs picked so far is with no
        special consideration, apart from the 2235, 2238 being early high
        statistics runs.
    >It would be particularly nice to use runs with downscaled ZDC
        (i.e. not so many trigger 4 events).
    
    Q: how much statistics do you need (More is better of course)
    >This is a good question...my guess is that to do reasonable
    >calibrations one needs ~200 counts in the TDC spectra.  Because the
    >target is not fixed, this means that we really need ~200 *tracks*
    >reconstructed to the vertex (to obtain track lenght and p).  I've not
    >done any serious estimates yet, but it doesn't look like it will be a 
    >problem in the FFS.  The MRS may be more problematic, though, since
    >the number of TPM2 (and thus global) tracks is lower. Coupled with
    >this is the fact that TOFW has twice as many slats as TOF1.  
    >If we blindly say that we lose a factor of two for #of tracks and two
    >for #of slats, we'll need 4 times the number of MRS events than FFS.
    >Of course, when the entire FS is operational, the numbers will be
    >closer.  So...what does this tell us?  In run 2513, I sorted ~40K
    >events to obtain the plot shown in figure 7.  Note that this has 
    >no further vertex cut than the (minimal) requirement that trigger 6 
    >fired.  Placing a +/-2ns cut on the (as yet uncalibrated!)
    >BBL(fastest)-BBR(fastest) reduces the number of counts by a factor of 
    >5-10 (and cleans the spectrum a bit as well.).  On this basis, I
    >would  estimate that a calibration of TOF1 requires on the order of
    >40-50K events with the same trigger mix as run 2513, and on the order
    >of 200K events with for TOFW.  My estimate for TOF1 is the lower
    >limit, and the for the TOFW is too uncertain to worry too much
    >about. 
    >So the short answer is I need twice the statistics, whatever they are;-)
    
    
    Comment: I have written a TrackSelect.C Program/Macro that realy helps
    a lot and propose to put a set of files (in root format) that has 
    
    i) vertex -20<v<20 and ii) at least one track in tpm2
    This reduces the size a lot, of course it is biased because tracking
    is done , and may have non-optimal parameters; for studies it is
    probably ok.
    >For what I am looking at, bias is really OK, if not preffered.  For
    >TOF calibrations and PID (testing in particular!) we want tracks, and 
    >the more the merrier.  Well, at least up to the point where the
    >tracking can no longer handle them.
    >Where does one find the secret treasure of flemming code?
    
    
    Q: Do you understand the shape of the 'closest hit plot (Fig 3) that
    seems already to deviate from
    
    godd gaussian distruibution at teh 10% level of the peak. Does this
    indicate missing tracks, or large background in TOF. Certainly for
    TOFW the #hits is much greater than tracks!
    >Note that this is for TOF1 not TOFW.  I think that the misidentifying
    >the "best" hit which is done very simply.  I just loop over all hits,
    >and for each hit I loop over tracks and plot the difference in x
    >position. Since, for some events, both of these numbers are very
    >large (>10!), I guess we get some junk.  I'll do this again, but only 
    >look at events where there are fewer than X tracks in T2 and see how
    >it looks.  Also, I never remove hits from the loop, it could be that
    >the same hit gets used more than once.  
    >Actually, I thought that this plot was very reassuring, since it
    >shows that *most* of the local tracks in T2 actually point at hit in
    >TOF1, and that the geometry is consistent, at least between T2 and
    >TOF1. 
    
    > I am sending this to the list, because you have brought up
    > some good questions, and it is easier to send this to everyone than
    >add to my previous document.  
    >The other reason for sending this to the list is to announce that you
    > have won the Weekly Carlsberg.  
    >What, you no doubt ask, is the Weekly Carlsberg?
    >This is the prize to the person with the first pertintent and
    > substantive comments to the HEHI weekly report. 
    > Sadly, this time you were the only contestant.
    >Thanks for your input! 
    
    
    Flemming 
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    Flemming Videbaek
    Physics Department
    Brookhaven National Laboratory
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