Re: OS upgrade

From: Christian Holm Christensen (cholm@hehi03.nbi.dk)
Date: Wed Jun 18 2003 - 04:44:57 EDT

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    Hi Hiro,
    
    Hironori Ito <hito@rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote concerning
      Re: OS upgrade [Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:16:19 -0400] 
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    > Hello.  About rcas software.
    > 
    > Who use xv, xfig and latex over the long network?  I wouldn't do it.  Do 
    > we realy ask for this?  (Note: rcf only wants to install the same image 
    > to all rcas including othere rhic experiments.)
    
    LaTeX is a good idea, as we use that for generating DVI and PS
    versions of `The Hitchhikers Guide to BRAT'.  
    
    LaTeX2Html is a good idea too, as that's used for the HTML version of
    the above guide. 
    
    Transfig would be nice too, as you may need that for some figures in
    the above mentioned Guide.  XFig it self isn't really needed unless
    local users want to make drawings (like class diagrams to document
    code :-)
    
    I see no reason why you wouldn't use LaTeX over a network connection.
    After all, TeX does not need an X connection at all. 
    
    I'd also recommend Doxygen.  It's very cool for documenting code.  In
    fact, I'd recommend that we switched to Doxygen for the automaticaly
    generated HTML documentation of BRAT, as it is much more capable than
    THtml. 
    
    Doxymacs is cool too. 
    
    > Flemming Videbaek wrote:
    > > I compiled the messages from Bjoern+Christian into this kind of list.
    > > 
    > > Since I will probably not make it to (all) of the meeting I hope/assume 
    > > Hiro can go.
    > > 
    > >  
    > > 
    > > Other comments-
    > > 
    > > Kris have you had a chance to checkout the RH9.0 machine-oops I guess 
    > > not since the
    > > 
    > > message about the RH9 was probably not ever forwarded to you.
    > > 
    > >  
    > > 
    > > |
    > > | The respective Liaisons are encouraged to test (or ask
    > > | your users to test) these 3 different RH Linux flavors
    > > | (rplay1 -> RH 7.3, rplay15 -> RH 8 and rplay10 -> RH 9)
    > > | in the next few weeks (the earlier the better). At the
    > > | meeting, each experiment will be asked for their OS
    > > | upgrade wishlist (flavor, extra software packages, etc).
    > > | Since USATLAS uses the LSF shared queues in the RHIC Linux
    > > | Farm, is is encouraged to attend in order to understand
    > > | how the RHIC OS upgrade will impact its access to the
    > > | RHIC Linux Farm.
    > > |
    > > | I will make a short presentation at the meeting to
    > > | summarize our upgrade plan and schedule. Discussion of
    > > | the experiments' needs will follow.
    > > 
    > > Flemming
    > > 
    > >  
    > > 
    > > Bjorn (sys op at NBI) and my general experience is, that one should
    > > wait for Red Hat x.1 rather than jumping into Red Hat x.0 straight
    > > away, as x.0 always has child-diseases.  That said, we should get onto
    > > a newer system ASAP. 
    > > 
    > >  
    > > 
    > >  >> As I hear RH 9.0 is in reality RH 8.1 thus should be ok
    
    What! I don't think that's true.  Red Hat 9.0 is a thing for Private
    users, so the money people at Red Hat can push Advanced Server.  A
    pure money scam - another good reason to switch to Debian or even
    Gentoo. 
    
    
    > > Compilers:
    > >   * GCC 3.2 or 3.3 (probably available at that time)
    > >   * Intel C++ compiler
    > >   * GDB
    > > 
    > >  
    > > 
    > > scripting
    > > 
    > >     * Perl an obvious must
    > >     * python2.2,
    > > 
    > >  
    > > 
    > > Libraries:
    > >   * XFree86 4.2.x run-time and developer libraries + headers
    > >     (in particular the OpenGL and libfreetype stuff)
    > >   * libmysqlclient (what ever version)
    > >   * LDAP for GRID solutions
    > >   * GSL  (Gnu Scientific library)
    > > 
    > >  
    > > 
    > > Tools
    > > 
    > >   * The MS True Type Fonts installed somewhere on the system.
    > >   * Autotools:
    > >     - Autoconf 2.53+
    > >     - Automake 1.7+
    > >     - Libtool  1.5+
    > > 
    > >  
    > > 
    > > could we also add utility programs like
    > > 
    > >  >>  (request for making overseas work easier, except of course these 
    > > services are available on rcf2 ).
    > > 
    > > 
    > > * latex
    > > * xv
    > > * xfig
    > > 
    > >  
    > > 
    > >  
    > > 
    > > Services:
    > >   * MySQL server on brahms-db0
    > >   * rootd - that's a can of worms to say the least.  To do that really
    > >     effectively, we should get the RCF guys to have `rootd' controlled
    > >     by `xinetd' (see the `rootd' man page, and the RPM stuff in the
    > >     ROOT source tree). 
    > > 
    > >    >> This is how it is done, apart from the fact it points not to a /uar/..
    > > 
    > >    >> but a brahmlib version.
    
    If it doesn't point to /usr, it should point to the AFS version. 
    
    > >   * LSF or OpenPBS. (will likely have condor)
    
    Condor is sitting on top of LSF or OpenPBS. 
    
    > > 
    > >      >>
    > >   * LDAP
    > >   * CVS server.  Rather than insisting on people using AFS to access
    > >     our CVS repositories, we could use a CVS server.
    > > 
    > >      >> -- Certainly not on all machines?
    
    No, on some designaed machine, say brahms-cvs (take one of the older
    ones). 
    
    > >  
    > > Other stuff:
    > >   * The MS True Type Fonts installed somewhere on the system.
    > >   * Autotools:
    > >     - Autoconf 2.53+
    > >     - Automake 1.7+
    > >     - Libtool  1.5+
    > > 
    > >  
    > > 
    > >  
    > > 
    > > The web search engine is as I realized since Betty left our own problem 
    > > not RCF since the
    > > 
    > > messages end up under our control on the br_list user account.
    
    Then install HtDig or Glimpse on the web-server, or ask Google to
    index the pages.  They offer that service freely to academia. 
    
    Yours, 
    
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