[Brahms-l] RE: meson paper draft

From: Djamel Ouerdane <ouerdane@nbi.dk>
Date: Tue Feb 17 2004 - 13:37:55 EST
Hi Michael,

I'm switching to a night shift mode so it won't be convenient for you to 
call me :)

>           well done. The paper is much more polished. In my first ever
> talk I had graphs of Et spectra from SPb ovs Fritioff and the Dual
> Parton Model. The DPM was clearly better but to my horrow Bo Anderson
> the author of Fritioff was in the front row. I desperately tried to
> fuddge the descrepancy and said that Fritoff was "not too bad".
> Anderson's talk was next. The first thing he said was "Fritoff dosen't
> work", he then chastised me for being so polite and said that the only
> way to learn something was to point out when models failed. Why are we
> so polite to Bjorken scaling? I can accept that if may work
> approximately for +- 1 unit but can we seriously show Fig 3 and say
> "Unfortunately, a non negligible fraction of our systematic error
> depends on $y$. Therefore, the present data cannot bring a definitive
> conclusion regarding the Bjorken picture. "
> 

I understand your point Michael. I'm not being polite, I'm being honest.
When I was analyzing the data, I first had a finer binning for the pt
spectra. This was fine at mid-rap but there was less stat. in the FS so I
increased the bin width so that all my spectra had the same (easier to
handle). I'm saying that because a finer binning in the MRS pt spectra did
lead to "boost-invariant" yields over 0.8 unit of rapidity. So, it tells
me our systematic error does not allow us to kick out Bjorken. Now, if I
was fast on this point, it's because to me, it's not the main point.
Bjorken built up a scenario without quantifying much what the
boost-invariant rapidity range would be (if you read the paper, it's a bit
vague). On the other hand, there are simple and clear predictions from the
Landau hydro, and it requires looking at the whole rapidity range instead
of focusing on y = 0 +- 1. I think, whether Landau works or not, it is
more interesting to discuss since it involves ALL our pion data.


> I find that the abstract also too limited. 

I know, I cut it down because I checked on the PRL web-site that an
abstract for a letter should not contain more than 600 characters, spaces
included. So I thought, along with Dieter, that giving the main results 
was probably a way to have it formatted right.

> Our data clearly favor some Landau like hydrodynamics. Also the rapidity
> dependence of particle ratios seems analagous to the sqrt(s) dependence,
> suggesting a strong dependence on mu_b. I

It's a statement somewhere in the paper. Do you disagree ? :)

> 
> I think Eqn 1 is superfluous. Why not just say gaussian. I think it is
> great to submit the data with the paper but could you squeeze in a table
> of intergrated yields?

If some text could be cut down, I can try.

> I have a small number of comments on the language. I can put them in the
> latex file but I would prefer to talk with you on the phone. Michael

please, use the tex file and send it back to me.

Djam

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