Re: width of dnd/deta

From: Jens Jørgen Gaardhøje (gardhoje@nbi.dk)
Date: Fri Nov 23 2001 - 09:09:02 EST

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    Dear Trine
    Many thanks for the plots.
    It seems that I should replace my ruler....
    I agree that the RMS as plotted, appears to show a stat. significant
    increase, although the effect is only about 3% from centrality
    class 1 to 6 at 200 but appears to be about twice that for 130GeV.
    But what does (would) it mean?
    We can certainly add a sentence in the paper, if people think so! Opinions?
    Suitable ref. for SPS?
    I have identified a few sentences that could give us more space for physics
    discussion : if squeezed I would cut the listing of the number
    of tiles/wafers installed.
    cheers
    JJ
    
    
    
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Trine S. Tveter" <trine@lynx.uio.no>
    To: <brahms-l@bnl.gov>
    Cc: <trine@lynx.uio.no>
    Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 11:52 AM
    Subject: Re: width of dnd/deta
    
    
    > Hi collaborators,
    >
    > On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Chellis Chasman wrote:
    >
    > > 1)  As I have said, I believe we have independent evidence
    > > that the distributions become narrower with increased
    > > centrality.  This seems counter-intuitive to me and thus
    > > an interesting observation.  Perhaps it is worth a
    > > sentence in the paper.
    >
    > and on Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Dieter Rohrich wrote:
    >
    > > At SPS, the h- rapidity distribution is narrower in central
    > > nucleus-nucleus collisions than in nucleon-nucleon. It is not a big
    > > effect, but it is significant. I would like to support Chellis'
    > > proposal to add a sentence and/or to include the RMS/FWHM in the table
    > > - if a quantitative analysis (RMS from the histogram, 2-Gaussian fit,
    > > etc.) confirms Chellis' observation.
    >
    > I calculated the RMS values for the dN/dEta distributions
    > of various centrality classes for 200 and 130 GeV, from the
    > data in the files dndeta_sym_200.dat and dndeta_sym_130.dat
    > found at "the usual place at the kansas account".
    > The results are plotted as a function of centrality class
    > (1 = 0-5%, 6 = 40-50%) in the figures:
    >
    > http://lynx.uio.no/~trine/brahms/mult/RMS_fullerrors.gif
    > (using the full errors taken from the .dat files)
    >
    > http://lynx.uio.no/~trine/brahms/mult/RMS_smallerrors.gif
    > (using the 3% point-to-point errors like in the alpha,beta fits)
    >
    > Upper panels:  Red points 200 GeV data, blue points 130 GeV data.
    > Lower panels:  RMS 200 GeV / RMS 130 GeV.
    >
    > The trend pointed out by Chellis looks significant.  Also there
    > are indications that the width increase from 130 to 200 GeV
    > is stronger for the more central collisions (as also seen from
    > our figure 4.)  What do you think - does this merit a sentence
    > in the paper?
    >
    > The numbers are given below for reference.
    >
    >                                        Best wishes,
    >                                           Trine
    > _____________________________________________________________
    >
    > Full errors:
    > 0-5%:
    > RMS200: 2.32861+-0.0253931 RMS130: 2.21047+-0.024398
    > Ratio: 1.05345+-0.0163451
    > 5-10%:
    > RMS200: 2.3554+-0.0252404 RMS130: 2.23798+-0.0244402
    > Ratio: 1.05247+-0.0161029
    > 10-20%:
    > RMS200: 2.37433+-0.0252682 RMS130: 2.25484+-0.02383
    > Ratio: 1.05299+-0.0157931
    > 20-30%:
    > RMS200: 2.38742+-0.0255841 RMS130: 2.27923+-0.024796
    > Ratio: 1.04747+-0.0159955
    > 30-40%:
    > RMS200: 2.39571+-0.0255872 RMS130: 2.30663+-0.0247556
    > Ratio: 1.03862+-0.0157259
    > 40-50%:
    > RMS200: 2.40582+-0.025714 RMS130: 2.32596+-0.0251689
    > Ratio: 1.03433+-0.0157317
    >
    > Point-to-point errors of 3% on dN/dEta:
    > 0-5%:
    > RMS200: 2.32861+-0.00792104 RMS130: 2.21047+-0.00761942
    > Ratio: 1.05345+-0.00510162
    > 5-10%:
    > RMS200: 2.3554+-0.00793332 RMS130: 2.23798+-0.00766753
    > Ratio: 1.05247+-0.00505651
    > 10-20%:
    > RMS200: 2.37433+-0.00796683 RMS130: 2.25484+-0.00771144
    > Ratio: 1.05299+-0.00504501
    > 20-30%:
    > RMS200: 2.38742+-0.00795419 RMS130: 2.27923+-0.00776257
    > Ratio: 1.04747+-0.00499057
    > 30-40%:
    > RMS200: 2.39571+-0.00795148 RMS130: 2.30663+-0.00779476
    > Ratio: 1.03862+-0.00491955
    > 40-50%:
    > RMS200: 2.40582+-0.00793511 RMS130: 2.32596+-0.00777788
    > Ratio: 1.03433+-0.00485815
    >
    >
    >
    



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