Re: Definition of Exclusive Measurement (Re: MULT PAPER. vers. 33. That's it.)

From: Stephen J. Sanders (ssanders@ku.edu)
Date: Wed Nov 21 2001 - 12:36:37 EST

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    Dear JH and Flemming,
    Thanks for the clarification, and with this definition I
    certainly agree that it is being misused in the text!
    
    ..steve
    
    J.H. Lee wrote:
    
    > Dear Steve,
    > Here is the definition of exclusive measurement of interactions
    > what the community (mainly HEP) understand and use.
    > 
    > "A measurement of particle interactions in which all participating particles
    > are identified and measured or computed in momentum (for the opposite,
    > Inclusive Measurement of Interactions). Exclusive measurements including all
    > particles of an interaction are usually possible only at relatively low
    > laboratory energies and for simple interaction types like two- and
    > three-body final states. "
    > 
    > The word "exclusive" is rarely used in the heavy ion community, because it's
    > very hard to measure a HI event exclusively, as we all know.
    > 
    > JH
    > 
    > 
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Stephen J. Sanders" <ssanders@ku.edu>
    > To: <brahms-l@bnl.gov>
    > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:05 PM
    > Subject: Re: MULT PAPER. vers. 33. That's it.
    > 
    > 
    >> Hi JH,
    >> This statement has been bothering me since it suggests I have the wrong
    >> idea the difference between exclusive and inclusive measurements.
    >> With the spectrometer arms we can determe the particle type and
    >> momentum:  I would consider that to be an "exclusive" measurement
    >> since we know everything there is to know.  This is  in contrast with,
    >> for example, the si and tile detectors where we only and deduce the
    >> number of particles--what I would consider to be an inclusive measurement.
    >> In this context, I think the wording in the draft if correct.
    >> Or, are you taking issue with the admittedly abbreviated use of
    >> "magnetic spectrometers" to stand for "magnetic spectrometers with
    > 
    > Cherenkov
    > 
    >> and time-of-flight paritcle identification"?
    >> 
    >> Regards, Steve
    >> 
    >> 
    >>> - page 3: "The BRAHMS experiment consists of ... for measuring
    >>> 
    >>> exclusive charged particle..."
    >>> 
    >>> We measure inclusive and semi-inclusive spectra, but certainly can't
    >>> 
    >>> measure exclusive particle spectra.
    >>> 
    



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