Re: Hard/soft scaling Equation is wrong

From: Jens Jørgen Gaardhøje (gardhoje@nbi.dk)
Date: Wed Nov 21 2001 - 11:29:41 EST

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    HI Michael
    I agree that the wording is incorrect/inconsistent with the figure.
    The ordinate in fig. 5 is in fact the stated formula divided by the numbers
    of pairs.
    Alternatively the formula (with or without the factor of 2 in the first
    term)  should
    refer to a fit of dN/deta, as you say.
    regards
    JJ
    
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Michael Murray" <murray@cyclotronmail.tamu.edu>
    To: <brahms-l@bnl.gov>
    Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:41 PM
    Subject: Hard/soft scaling Equation is wrong
    
    
    >     Dear Jens Jorgen,
    >                  the Hard/soft scaling equation we use is
    > incorrect and clearly in contradiction to Fig 5.
    >
    >
    > "... we fit the observed dependencies to a functional
    > $dN/d\eta/(N_{part}/2)=\alpha\cdot
    >      N_{part}+\beta \cdot N_{coll}$.
    > For rapidities $\eta=$ 0 and 3.0 we   obtain:
    >      $\alpha=0.98 \pm 0.10$ and , $1.05 \pm 0.08$ and
    >      $\beta=0.25  \pm 0.04,        0.09 \pm 0.03$ respectively.
    >
    > So at eta=3, beta is almost zero and this equation says that
    > dN/dEta * 2/Npart should grow linearly with Npart with a slope
    > of 1.05. However in Fig 5 we see that for eta=3.
    > dN/dEta * 2/Npart =~ 1.05 independent of Npart
    >
    > In Kharzee and Leven (which is now PLB {\bf B 523} 79 (2001))
    > the following equation is used.
    >
    > dN                 Npart
    > --   = (1-X)*npp * -----  + X*npp *Ncoll
    > dEta                 2
    >
    > Thus I think that we should write
    > dN             Npart
    > --   = alpha * -----  + Beta * Ncoll
    > dEta             2
    >
    > I think this is what Trine fitted to.
    > It is also clear that the errors on alpha and beta are
    > anticorrelated since the total value of dN/dEta is fixed.
    >
    > Therefore I suggest that we use +- for the errors on alpha
    > and -+ for the errors on beta.
    >
    > The corresponding latex is
    >  Using for   $N_{coll}$ the
    >      values estimated in ~\cite{Kharzeev_and_Nardi} we fit the observed
    >      dependencies to a functional $dN/d\eta=\alpha\cdot
    >      N_{part}/2+\beta \cdot N_{coll}$. For pseudorapidities $\eta=$ 0 and
    3.0 we
    >    obtain:
    >      $\alpha=0.98 \pm 0.10$ and , $1.05 \pm 0.08$ and
    >      $\beta=0.25 \mp 0.04,  0.09 \mp 0.03$ respectively.
    >      For comparison we find $\alpha=0.99 \pm 0.09, 0.99 \pm 0.07, $
    >      and $\beta=0.18 \mp 0.04, 0.02 \mp 0.04 $ at
    >      $\sqrt{s_{NN}}$=130 GeV.
    >
    > and the new ref [3] is
    >   \bibitem{Kharzeev_and_Levin} D. Kharzeev and E. Levin %nucl- th/0108006
    >    Phys. Lett. {\bf B 523} 79 (2001), and private communication. %
    >
    >
    > Michael Murray, Cyclotron TAMU, 979 845 1411 x 273, Fax 1899
    >
    >
    



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