[Fwd: [Fwd: INVITATION TO START THINKING ABOUT RUN PLANS for BRAHMS]]
From: Betty McBreen (mcbreen@sgs1.hirg.bnl.gov)
Date: Fri Jun 30 2000 - 14:05:00 EDT
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> Dear Betty
Somwhow the message to the general Brahms list bounced agian. Could you
send it for me to all?
thanks
JJ
> Dear Brahms collaborators.
>
> Flemming and I have decided that the time has now come to start the
> discussion on a run plan for the summer. This discussion should take
> place over the BRAHMS general list so that all can take part in it and
> voice their oinions. The ambition is to work out a reasonably detailed
> 'shopping' list for the things we would like to do over the summer, so
> that we can both debug the experiment and collect useful physics.
>
> There may be different views on how to proceed, all subject to the
> machine performs and what the luminosity turns out to be. We may have to
> develop a tree-like run plan to account for different machine scenarios.
>
> To give a flavour of the very first exchanges on these issue between
> Flemming and me I enclose a few
> 'clips'.
>
> Best regards
>
> JJ and flemming
>
> ******************** JJG on 26-6 ********************
> I guess we should also start thinking about a detailed run plan in the
> case that RHIC operations move in a stable mode and the experiments
> begin to move into the physics mode.
>
> This is probably not so difficult, but it may be usefull to work out a
> rather detailed list already now. There may be input on items that could
>
> end up being forgotten.
>
> I could imagine the following to open the discussion:
>
> MRS at 90 deg: measure at field settings to cover the pt=p range from
> few 0.1 Gev to >1.5 GeV.
> Record data with both polarities.
> Calibration of time spectra should be done by comparing various
> settings. We should be careful that the range coveres is large enough to
>
> see heavy clusters (e.g. d, anti-d, t, anti-t. etc..).
> Perhaps one should, depending on background conditions, make provisions
> for a TOF trigger (gates must be large enough for accepting slow moving
> heavy particles).
>
> FFS at some low angle. Your suggestion of 3-5 deg seems right if the
> background is OK. Here we must again have enough settings to cover a
> reasonably nice Y slice around the interesting (low) pt range. Cover
> both polarities. Again a spec. trigger should be considered.
>
> All data in coincidence with ZDC, BB. Tiles and Si prob. also in
> trigger with no restrictions.
> As far as ZDC and BB goes we should explore the influence of the mult.
> requirement on the BB. I guess there are no hard cuts on the ZDC
> spectrum.
>
> This would allow us to hopefully get first data on pi, K and p leading
> to some ratios in the two rapidity intervals and some rough spectrum
> slopes. Coalescence should be fairly easy (roughy same number of d and
> d-bar expected): the number of baryons produced goes up , but the
> number of d/p**2 probably(hopefully) goes down. A good statistics run
> for pions at MRS would also be good for HBT (>30k pairs).
>
> We should also consider moving both spectrometers to the same angle
> (e.g. 30 deg.) if the count rate perimits before the end of the run, so
> that we may start to compare rates etc...
>
> Cheers
> JJ
>
> **********************************************
>
> ************* part of Flemmings ansver (translated from
> Danish)******************
> Hi Jens Jorgen,
>
> ....
> I agree that we should discuss run plans more. You will find that my
> original draft is somewhat different from yours. I would tend more
> towards several measurements at different angles (f.ex 90, 60, 40 deg)
> and a few at the forward settings (FS) and focus on good pion, kaon,
> proton spectra and save the rarer event for later. This is mostly to
> have shorter runs (more stable conditions) and save the orther for
> peiods where the luminosity (and the triggers) are bedre.
>
> We know pretty well what running times are needed for single partikle
> spectra as a function of luminosity and triggers. Could you come up with
> estimates of your rate/setting estimates for d, d,d-bar f.ex. at 90 deg,
> and 10,5 deg.
>
> ...
> Flemming
>
> **************************
>
> *************reply from JJ****************
>
> >From our SPS data we know that we collected 24 anti -d over 96 hrs of
> running. These were for 20% central events with a spec trigger. There
> was probably about 400.000 raw single particle events recorded for this
> (av. rate of 400 evts/sec).
>
> For RHIC at 1 central ev/sek we should in 40 hrs get 160.000 central
> coll. With the solid angle that we have . and perhaps assuming that the
> antibaryon prod. rate is larger than at SPS by a factor of 10. We could
> land on more or less the same number. At the same time we would collect
> masses of , K- and p-bars.
>
> At SPS (NA44) the d/p ratio is 0.017 at midrap. We should again expect
> several hundred deut. in say 40 hrs in a setting that will also allow
> collection of pi+,K+,p in large numbers (MRS).
>
> So I would think that d and perhaps d-bar is very feasible initially
> with somewhat longer runs at the same setting. In general I like the
> idea of having a few very good data sets with high statistics also for
> debugging the analysis details.
>
> Cheers JJ
>
> **************
>
> Anyway, this is the spirit of the discussion, so PLEASE JOIN IN;
> BRAHMS'ERS!!!
>
> CHEERS
>
> JJ and F
>
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> JENS JORGEN GAARDHOJE
> Assoc. Prof. of Physics, Dr. Scient.
>
> Niels Bohr Institute,
> University of Copenhagen
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JENS JORGEN GAARDHOJE
Assoc. Prof. of Physics, Dr. Scient.
Niels Bohr Institute,
University of Copenhagen
Blegdamsvej 17, 2100 Copenhagen
Denmark.
Tlf: (+45) 35 32 53 09 (dir)
(+45) 35 32 52 09 (secr)
Fax: (+45) 35 32 50 16
Email: gardhoje @ nbi.dk
Home page: http://alf.nbi.dk/~gardhoje
-Chair Ph. D. School of Physics at NBI.F.AFG.
(secr. Frank Kristensen 35 32 04 41, Ørsted Lab.)
-Member Danish National Commission for UNESCO
(secr. Ulla Holm 35 32 52 72, NBI)
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