Hi Konstantin, On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:36:30 -0800 Konstantin Olchanski <olchansk@sam.triumf.ca> wrote concerning "Re: ROOT on windows98 or 2000 ????": > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:45:07PM +0100, Christian Holm Christensen wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:13:33 -0800 > > Konstantin Olchanski <olchansk@sam.triumf.ca> wrote > > concerning "Re: ROOT on windows98 or 2000 ????": > > > > What Digital did with VMS, was to bundle the OS with the Hardware, > > much like Digital did with OSF, HP did with HP-UX, and IBM with DOS. > > Yes, all but IBM: the IBM mainframe OSes (VM, MVS, etc) are (were) > available on "IBM mainframe" clones, same as the IBM "PC" DOS > is available on "IBM PC" clones. An exception is the AS/400 > OS, but I do not think anybody ever built AS/400 clones. I really meant the other way around. You couldn't buy a IBM 80286 without getting DOS. Sure, other IBM-compatible machines also shipped with DOS, but that's not the issue. The issue is that HP, Digital, IBM (and Sun today) made money off software - in an indirect way - by bundling it with their hardware - much like M$ is making money due to having convinced almost all retailers that they should bundle any i386 with Windoze. Compare this to another strategy: Go buy a motherboard, a chip, harddisk, monitor, keyboard, mouse, various dirves, and so on. Go to your local Internet café, carring 2-3 floppies. Download and copy to the floppies Debian GNU/Linux boot floppies. Go home, assemble your machine, plugin the first floppy boot up and follow the instructions. When it becomes time to choose installation medium, chose "network". Fill out the remaining fields, and then go get a cup of coffie, a cigaret, a good book (forget the telly), and vola, after 1 hour you have a running system without having paid a single penny for software. > > BTW, I saw on Compaq's home page that someone is planning/have to port > > VMS to Intels Itanium chip [2]. > > Yes, this is their new "big plan". Pipe dreams, I would say. Big yawn... You said it. > However, today's freshmeat has "FreeVMS-0.0.1" > (http://freevms.free.fr). An ironic coincidence? LOL! That was funny. I did know there was a thing like FreeVMS, but I had no idea they were that far. I guess I should start looking at freshmeat more often. Yours, Christian Holm Christensen ------------------------------------------- Address: Sankt Hansgade 23, 1. th. Phone: (+45) 35 35 96 91 DK-2200 Copenhagen N Cell: (+45) 28 82 16 23 Denmark Office: (+45) 353 25 305 Email: cholm@nbi.dk Web: www.nbi.dk/~cholm
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