Beam Beam vertex

From: Flemming Videbaek (videbaek@sgs1.hirg.bnl.gov)
Date: Wed Jan 03 2001 - 09:50:37 EST

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    Folks,
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    From: "Flemming Videbaek" <videbaek@sgs1.hirg.bnl.gov>
    To: <brahms-dev-l@bnl.gov>
    Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 9:02 PM
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    > > While attempting to extract DN/deta from TPM1 data from the most recent
    =
    > > datareduction pass I came ac known across a potential disturbing =
    > > problem.. As part of the analysis I looked at the VTX(BB)-VTX(tracks in
    =
    > > TPM1). This has in general be known to be centered a 0 (using official =
    > > offsets). The analysis selected central events using the new macro by =
    > > JH.
    > > I found that an additional offset of 3.7 cm was needed. This was just =
    > > introuduced and analysis progressed until I decided
    > > to look at the Dn/Deta for all centralities.(6,6-20,20-50,50-100 %). The
    =
    > > disturbing fact is that the vertex difference has a clear dependence on
    =
    > > centralitychanging by about 4 cm from central to peripheral.
    > > - The BrRdoModule is weas the standard from Brat
    > > - The BrCalibrBB.dat from BratSys/params (Dec-21).
    > >
    > > Integrated over all events the sigma is 3.2-3.4 cm, but for a small =
    > > centrality bin down to about 2.2->2.5 cm.=20
    > > Is this a problem with the analysis done from the DataSelection or a =
    > > more general problem with the BB calibrations and
    > > vertex determination. If so there is ca clear room for improvement, and
    =
    > > possible also the timing can be better.
    > > Using the ZDC vertex no such correlation is seen , albeit wider. Look at
    =
    > > the file
    > > pii3:   ~videbaek/bbZvsMult.ps
    > >
    > > Since this has implication (in a good direction) I am wondering if any =
    > > has comments/knowledge on this this (in particular Yuru, Bjoern ?). II =
    > > have discussed with JH if we can determined if such dependence also =
    > > shows up in the timing
    > > part of the BB module (by looking at MRS data where the time-to-Tofw has
    =
    > > a close to constant pathlengthy and thus can be used to check such =
    > > effect in the t0 part.
    > >
    > > Flemming
    > >
    > >
    > > ------------------------------------------------------
    > > Flemming Videbaekma=20
    > > Physics Department
    > > Brookhaven National Laboratory
    > >
    > > tlf: 631-344-4106
    > > fax 631-344-1334
    > > e-mail: videbaek@bnl.gov
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    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>While attempting to extract DN/deta =
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    > > potential=20
    > > disturbing problem.. As part of the analysis I looked at the =
    > > VTX(BB)-VTX(tracks=20
    > > in TPM1). This has in general be known to be centered a 0 (using =
    > > official=20
    > > offsets). The analysis selected central events using the new macro by=20
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    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I found that an additional offset of =
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    > > needed. This was just introuduced and analysis progressed until I=20
    > > decided</FONT></DIV>
    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to look at the Dn/Deta for all=20
    > > centralities.(6,6-20,20-50,50-100 %). The disturbing fact is that the =
    > > vertex=20
    > > difference has a clear dependence on centralitychanging by about 4 cm =
    > > from=20
    > > central to peripheral.</FONT></DIV>
    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- The BrRdoModule is weas the standard
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    > > from=20
    > > Brat</FONT></DIV>
    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- The BrCalibrBB.dat from =
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    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Integrated over all events the sigma is
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    > > 3.2-3.4 cm,=20
    > > but for a small centrality bin down to about 2.2-&gt;2.5 cm. =
    > > </FONT></DIV>
    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is this a problem with the analysis =
    > > done from the=20
    > > DataSelection or a more general problem with the BB calibrations=20
    > > and</FONT></DIV>
    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>vertex determination. If so there is ca
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    > > clear room=20
    > > for improvement, and possible also the timing can be =
    > > better.</FONT></DIV>
    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Using the ZDC vertex no such =
    > > correlation is seen ,=20
    > > albeit wider. Look at the file</FONT></DIV>
    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pii3:&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    > > ~videbaek/bbZvsMult.ps</FONT></DIV>
    > > <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since this has implication (in a good =
    > > direction) I=20
    > > am wondering if any has comments/knowledge on this this (in particular =
    > > Yuru,=20
    > > Bjoern ?). II have discussed with JH if we can determined if such =
    > > dependence=20
    > > also shows up in the timing</FONT></DIV>
    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>part of the BB module (by looking at =
    > > MRS data where=20
    > > the time-to-Tofw has a close to constant pathlengthy and thus can be =
    > > used to=20
    > > check such effect in th</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>e t0 =
    > > part.</FONT></DIV>
    > > <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Flemming</FONT></DIV>
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    > > Videbaekma <BR>Physics Department<BR>Brookhaven National =
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